tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post573330248776681310..comments2024-02-17T00:29:34.656-08:00Comments on Sacramento Vegetable Gardening: The Duke Rides AgainUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-75470097131853269822022-09-14T19:10:28.739-07:002022-09-14T19:10:28.739-07:00Bill, Its Jeremy Miller. I just stumbled across yo...Bill, Its Jeremy Miller. I just stumbled across your blog. Sorry you couldn't reach me, my email changed. And no, still no luck with getting any of my trees (grown from a pit) to fruit, though I gave a few seedings in 1 gallon pots away about a decade ago, and a couple of folks reported success. They might have been Bacons though. Cheers, JeremyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908265124601006077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-53337790473976282732020-10-01T21:27:42.575-07:002020-10-01T21:27:42.575-07:00Hi Bill, I can get a piece of a Duke tree. But wha...Hi Bill, I can get a piece of a Duke tree. But what do I graft it onto? My name is Terry I live in Grass Valley Cal. my email. triplehranch3@gmail.com Thank you, Terry Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00932509129608750249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-39585849069629369422020-04-16T18:33:14.435-07:002020-04-16T18:33:14.435-07:00If you want a true Duke tree, it must be grafted f...If you want a true Duke tree, it must be grafted from an existing Duke tree. You can always plant a seed, but whatever comes up will not be a Duke. As for the Duke not producing after 4-5 years, I don't know. Mine started producing in the second year and delivered monster crops every year after until the house was sold in 2017. I assume the Duke 7 root stock came from a Duke tree, but that's just an assumption. I have no idea. That was not the root stock that was used for my Duke tree. Duke avocados form in the spring and are ready for harvest in September-October. That's when the oil content is highest. Leaving the fruit on the tree does not increase the oil content. The mother Duke tree in Oroville IS in the foothills and has survived countless freezes. Many Duke trees are located in and around the Sierra Nevada range.Bill Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11816389236294882066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-73919639139419468842019-11-02T15:29:23.516-07:002019-11-02T15:29:23.516-07:00Is your duke tree grown from a duke seed or is it ...Is your duke tree grown from a duke seed or is it a grafted duke ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02136000325444439607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-5810230620170841152019-06-08T15:44:03.848-07:002019-06-08T15:44:03.848-07:00Our tree is finally doing well after some tough ye...Our tree is finally doing well after some tough years..... we only have one DUKE in our orchard. Its about 6 Ft tall and has been in the ground for about 4/5 years.. still no fruit.... what are we doing wrong???? mike and kathiemike mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11772147399775216589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-16428224323402601322019-04-01T05:32:35.798-07:002019-04-01T05:32:35.798-07:00Too bad brokaw wont take an interest in propagatin...Too bad brokaw wont take an interest in propagating the duke but since few see the duke as a commercial type im guessing thats the reason why , they wont propagate lower than 100 trees for a special custom order on a certain rootstock .Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06812837734867267278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-72755731263947488562019-04-01T05:22:53.891-07:002019-04-01T05:22:53.891-07:00Did the Duke 7 rootstock come from the early duke ...Did the Duke 7 rootstock come from the early duke trees? And for the pros out there does it perform well ? is it known for fast tree growth, high fruit production or mainly root rot resistance ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06812837734867267278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-13322434882475059962019-04-01T04:58:39.229-07:002019-04-01T04:58:39.229-07:00Im also interested in fruit hang time on tree, i k...Im also interested in fruit hang time on tree, i know some avo kinds need to be on tree a year and longer, so what is the ideal hang time on a duke to give plenty of time for oil content to develop ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06812837734867267278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-32964166177386947692019-04-01T04:47:03.655-07:002019-04-01T04:47:03.655-07:00Theses post say duke can handle cold temps lower t...Theses post say duke can handle cold temps lower than fuerte and mexicola types has anyone had a duke surnive cali foothills 2000 to 2500 foot elevation without frost protection say going down to between 18 to 22 degrees and if so did the duke trees have and major dieback? Also im wondering if the dule will flower too early in high cali foothills to possibly not survive a late freeze in cali high foothills does anyone have any duke fruiting up that high ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06812837734867267278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-27431705162014650222019-04-01T04:31:44.943-07:002019-04-01T04:31:44.943-07:00This is shane again not sure my email was included...This is shane again not sure my email was included in my post its hondahshane@yahoo.com or 208 544-8147 does anyone know if David in waterford still has small duke trees to sale ? Or if anyone willing to sell me scions- shipped in mail to me, and has anyone visited the duke tree by the depot in oroville lately to know if its still there ? Gary grag in bay area plans to propagate the duke to sell he has a recent video put up on youtube a month ago standing by a hughe old duke tree i guess taken at the chaffin farm.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06812837734867267278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-77030955460780865662019-04-01T03:53:49.990-07:002019-04-01T03:53:49.990-07:00Im also on a determined mission to get scions off ...Im also on a determined mission to get scions off a duke tree i plan to grow in fresno county when i move back to cal, if someone has leads on Duke scions call shane at 208 544-8147Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06812837734867267278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-9662854058479490042019-03-31T22:02:52.048-07:002019-03-31T22:02:52.048-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06812837734867267278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-48423372818726640892018-08-10T22:16:28.151-07:002018-08-10T22:16:28.151-07:00Hi there Bill! I too am on a mission to get a duke...Hi there Bill! I too am on a mission to get a duke avacado tree and have enjoyed reading about your quest, triumph, and loss! I live in Tucson, Arizona where a standing grove of 300 Duke avacado trees once stood at Ranchos Palos Verdes back in the 30's. I have a passion for gardening and everything edible and I want to bring the Duke back to Tucson but I don't know where to begin. I would greatly appreciate any information you could provide me or insight you might pass along regarding where I might able to get my hands on root stock and bud wood! I look forward to your reply, happy gardening!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09474128941917401211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-20835407481918001422017-10-07T19:40:59.496-07:002017-10-07T19:40:59.496-07:00Hi, just god this article while looking for an avo...Hi, just god this article while looking for an avocado tree for my yard in Woodland. I grew up in Oroville so having a duke tree would be awesome. Do you know if the are graftinga duke to a dwarf stock. I am look in for something that won't get bigger than 15 feet.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07729556817879212564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-56367369246523518632017-10-05T16:37:25.485-07:002017-10-05T16:37:25.485-07:00Well, see what I know? Try to outlaw "UNKNOWN...Well, see what I know? Try to outlaw "UNKNOWN" from posting and UNKNOWN posts. I would check with David directly, Greg. He's not following the blog all that often. He's at davidlj48@hotmail.com.Bill Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11816389236294882066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-2755696165734742822017-10-05T16:23:43.137-07:002017-10-05T16:23:43.137-07:00Hi,
Greg again. I also would not mind trying to g...Hi,<br /><br />Greg again. I also would not mind trying to get some budwood. I can always graft some varieties onto my other trees.<br /><br />gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13591846736076866567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-16714461184943991452017-10-01T16:45:59.085-07:002017-10-01T16:45:59.085-07:00Yes, I realize it does get confusing when people d...Yes, I realize it does get confusing when people don't leave names.<br /><br />This is Greg. I have been posting for awhile on here. I live in Brentwood with 6 avocado trees, among other things, and although I don't have space for more I often end up in conversations where I to recommend to people about which varieties to grow in Northern California.<br /><br />I am sure I will plant more trees in the future both for myself and others so I was hoping to find out what other local varieties there are.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Greg<br />negretedecali@gmail.comgregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13591846736076866567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-80703173651171947102017-09-30T10:17:18.220-07:002017-09-30T10:17:18.220-07:00I've now changed the settings on the blog to n...I've now changed the settings on the blog to no longer allow comments from UNKNOWN. I invite you to leave comments behind. I'm delighted to get them. I'm delighted to answer questions. However, now you will be required to sign in with a user name AND contact information before you're allowed to post any comment. Thank you.Bill Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11816389236294882066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-79443920704646815172017-09-30T10:04:48.015-07:002017-09-30T10:04:48.015-07:00Message to "UNKNOWN."
It would be nice ...Message to "UNKNOWN."<br /><br />It would be nice if you left your name and contact so I could provide you with the information you want. Is it really that much trouble for you to sign in and leave your name and contact information behind? I promise, I will not sell it to a spammer. I hate them just as much as you do.<br /><br />First and foremost, this is not David's blog. It's mine. My name is Bill. You might be referring to David Johnson, member of the California Rare Fruit Growers, and the extremely gifted and knowledgeable fruit tree breeder and grafter who created my former Duke Avocado tree as well as so many others. But, I don't know. You've left absolutely nothing behind in terms of being able to contact you. I'd like to be able to tell David that you stopped by and inquired about these things. But I can't. It's rather frustrating to me as you might be able to tell.<br /><br />If you do happen to stop by again someday please leave YOUR NAME and a way to CONTACT YOU.<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />Bill Bird<br />billbird@gmail.com (See? It's not hard!)Bill Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11816389236294882066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-13249324067687715562017-09-28T12:41:29.734-07:002017-09-28T12:41:29.734-07:00David,
I noticed that you offer other trees which...David,<br /><br />I noticed that you offer other trees which are smaller.<br /><br />Can you tell us about them? A local nursery here has a local Mexicola type variety and a "green Hass" variety they call it probably Gwen or similar.<br /><br />I also recently found a youtube video with the couple that run Epicenter in Santa Cruz county titled on the Edge of Avocados. Lots of good info for Nor Cal growing where they discuss which varieties do well up here and which don't.gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13591846736076866567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-86065312357976928802017-06-11T00:47:16.808-07:002017-06-11T00:47:16.808-07:00I agree on the growing the Guatamalan varieties by...I agree on the growing the Guatamalan varieties by the house. I have a Reed, Pinkerton and Lamb Hass near the house (East Contra Costa) and they are all happy and I didn't even paint the trunks on any of my trees even though heat seems to be a buffet bigger threat here than frost. <br /><br />As to So Cal I think it is also true that the Hass is tastier there too which is why I chose not to grow that since it is in every store as well but I have had some great Bacon in Northern California, although the taste is very different from Hass I like them for variety. When every avo is a Hass I get bored. I have also seen some people claim that Bacon is their favorite.<br /><br />Sorry to hear about your house Bill. I know a lot of people who lost their homes and it is beyond comprehension.<br /><br />I appreciate all the comments and feedback on here. I am obsessed my avocados and happy to find that I am not alone.<br /><br />-Greggregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13591846736076866567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-72431835876023116872017-06-02T10:49:50.385-07:002017-06-02T10:49:50.385-07:00I know Bill it is a crying shame what happened t...I know Bill it is a crying shame what happened to you, as you know, I had the same thing happen to me decades ago, and the same thing happened to another of our local CRFG members not too many years ago. <br /><br />And yes, I have Oroville Duke trees that I am trying to find a home for; plus some others that are at least hardy down to the low 20s and lower, they have never been damaged; assume they can take down to the high teens like the Mexicola. Some are smaller trees, that do not get as huge as the Duke. <br /><br />I have found that most people just go to a nursery and buy the regular stuff that is offered; but most winter varieties like the Bacon that mature in the winter are not very good; they tend to be far better in warmer winter areas like SoCal, of course which is not what we are like in the Central Valley The Bacon is not a high oil fruit and over the winter they become watery and sweet. <br /><br />If you want Hass like, and you can protect them next to your home, I would go with a Dwarf Gem ore etc, I have found that such Hass like avocados if given a little protection next to a home, do just fine; dwarf just makes it a lot easier. <br /><br />Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10632785288526440644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-51882225224232069232017-05-29T12:36:34.258-07:002017-05-29T12:36:34.258-07:00That's no nursery Greg. That's David Johns...That's no nursery Greg. That's David Johnson's backyard in Waterford. David is a long time member of the California Rare Fruit Growers. He's the one who grafted my Duke from bud wood that I procured from an ancient Duke tree at the Western Pacific Rail Road Depot in downtown Oroville. Sadly, the brewery that opened up there after the steakhouse closed failed, and the entire ball of wax is now up for sale. It's a bargain too! That's because downtown Oroville is essentially dead. At any rate, the trees that David is offering are from the bud wood that I got for him over a number of years. He's got so many Duke starter plants now that he doesn't need my bud wood anymore. And, sadly, I lost the house where my Duke was planted. It belongs to someone else now.Bill Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11816389236294882066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-82692082723999212162017-05-29T01:47:05.033-07:002017-05-29T01:47:05.033-07:00A nursery in Waterford is carrying Duke and some ...A nursery in Waterford is carrying Duke and some other rate avocado trees.<br /><br />https://modesto.craigslist.org/grd/6143526113.html<br /><br />I hope to try a Duke someday. I am growing a few varieties. I live in East Contra Costa county near the Delta and of course the more Mexican varieties do well and what I would recommend for Northern California.<br /><br />If I owned a lot of land I try Duke too.gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13591846736076866567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1040094306206601621.post-12563075693359947142017-05-29T01:47:00.669-07:002017-05-29T01:47:00.669-07:00Fuerte doesn't do well on the coasts either be...Fuerte doesn't do well on the coasts either because of salt in the air. gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13591846736076866567noreply@blogger.com